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Wednesday, November 14, 2018
Tang Bolt and mast strength
This is a rough drawing of the setup he had, plenty of unknowns but I have made some educated guesses
8mm rigging wire
16mm tang bolt
4.8mm Monel rivets
8mm wire fails at around 4.6 tonnes . Since there are two shrouds the maximum load would be unlikely to have exceeded 9.2 tonnes and was probably a lot less than this. But the wire yields and would begin to show permanent elongation at approximately half the breaking strain, or in this case a total load of 4.6 tonnes, though it is unlikely the load is evenly shared between both shrouds.
The failure mode was the tang bolt pulling down through the mast 50mm on one side, presumably the rivets must have sheared off and all the load went onto the aluminium wall.
Here is the results from a quick spreadsheet I knocked up.
So if we assume a 16mm tang bolt we see that its Shear strength is about 5.7 tonnes. But since it is in Double shear due to the external strap it should be able to take about twice that load, more than enough to cope with the maximum shroud load to failure.
Look now at the bearing strength of a 4mm wall section mast, It yields at 2.5 tonnes and fails at 3.9 tonnes. The other side attached by 7 rivets fails at between 2.3 and 3.8 tonnes depending on the size of the rivet. (rivet breaking loads from Stanley). There is also likely to be some clamping force helping to secure the plate to the mast, but this is very hard to calculate.
My guess is that the mast wall yielded slightly, putting more of the load on the rivets. this may have happened earlier, as the mast yields at a reasonably low load. When she got knocked down the Pop rivets sheared placing the full load onto the mast wall which tore down, exceeding its bearing stress. the load may also have permanently stretched the wire, and in his latest phone call, he mentions the D2 (Diagonal 2's, discontinuous intermediate shrouds) needed tightening indicating they also may have yielded slightly. I am guessing they are 7mm wire so 3.5 tonne break, 1.8 tonne yield.
We can also see the required wall thickness to support the full load of the bolt alone, in the case of a 16mm bolt we would need a 9.1mm thick bearing surface, but if it's in single shear you would need to upsize to a 19mm tang bolt and make the wall 11mm thick to match the strength of the shrouds.
This mast was absolutely bulletproof for all normal sailing loads, but the incredible shock loads placed on the mast when it hit the water found the weakest parts.
Of course, the failure of the mast wall may have relived the loads enough to prevent the shrouds from failing. Perhaps if the tang had been stronger the whole rig might have been lost?
I am not an engineer, I do have some basic tech school training in these types of calculations (1.5 years at Polytechnic studying a diploma in mechanical engineering and drafting) but not enough to be happy if you use these figures to design anything without first having them checked by a Qualified and competent engineer. Also working with figures past yield or maximum design stress is not good practice. To really nut out what happened the mast needs to be analysed and the calculations made with much more advanced non-linear techniques like FEA.
I'd be interested to hear any real engineers comments and observations.
Monday, January 26, 2015
A dinghy to row. Galifreya
Part of the decision to go for a bigger boat was to be able to get a bigger dinghy on deck that will row much better than the 8 footer on Snow petrel. I can fit a 12 footer onto Snow Petrel II.
Anyway, A good friend was going to build an Auk for his beautiful atkins cutter. I couldn't help myself designing a 8.5x4 foot rowing dinghy that was more suited to him.
Here's the result. I called it Galifreya to go with his yacht Galifrey.
It had to look good, especially upside down on his deck, And fit under the boom.
The dinghy also had to row exceedingly well, He has a bolger light dory and that was the standard that it was being judged against. But more stability was needed, and better towing. He wanted high freeboard to get a comfortable rowing position,
I chose to pull the quarters up to reduce wetter surface and transom drag when heavily loaded. The waterline beam is also pretty narrow, but wide enough to carry the weight and give about twice the initial stability of the bolger light dory. Most small rowing dinghies have broader low sterns to carry more weight and give more stability. Good for outboards and sailing but very very bad for rowing, especially when loaded.
The bow is fine underwater but rapidly flares to a fuller bow to lift it over any waves and stop bow steering when towing. Coupled with the high freeboard the dinghy is very dry, The sheer is pretty flat to give the comfortable rowing position he wanted, And to give more capacity for deep loading.
The keel is long and straight with a big skeg. It makes it track very well. possibly two well for my liking, I would probably take 25mm of the skeg and 10 mm of the keel to make it more nimble. But it is a joy to row, You don't need to focus on keeping it going straight. Even when gliding or with a beam wind. It surfs well down the smallest waves. And is stable enough to stand up in.
Happy! A smooth wake and nice curl to the bow. The dinghy rowed better than any other I have tried in this size range. Next we need to do some speed trials against other dinghies and row it in all sort of conditions but our first trails were better than I could have hoped. Just needs some paint and a few finishing touches and she's done.
Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Anchor Ratios for the bored
I was keen to see how the law of Mechanical Similitude applies to anchors and boat sizes.
I found it very interesting, much more interesting than the plane, although Karen, sitting next to me did not share my excitement...
Anyway, for me the discovery's were interesting, if you take the view that holding power is proportional to the anchors blade area (edit: I have since found that it needs to include depth of set as well, so it is normally proportional to the weight, or area times depth of set) then the benefits of going larger are not as great as you might at first think. In my case going from a 20 kg anchor to a 30 kg anchor then the weight increases by 1.5 but the anchors area only increases by 1.3. Useful, but not as big a benefit as at first you might think.
Now to get a bit controversial and way out of my depth, but thinking about what actually holds anchors into the seabed in some bottoms it occurred to me that the shear strength of the seabed might well play a part. and if that's the case then the circumference of the anchor would play a part in it's holding by defining the shearing boundary. Now the little bit I read on soil dynamics on Wikipedia confused the crap out of me so don't go thinking I am any sort of expert... But the bad news for big anchors is that up-sizing the weight to 1.5 only gives you 1.09 more shear strength. Interesting, not sure how relevant it is, in soft mud area is critical, in clay or firm mud maybe shear strength comes into it? Any soil technicians out there? (edit:still havent found out anything about this, but probably not a big factor)
Thinking more about it the shear strength would also include the thickness of the substrate it needs to pull through, so it may increase as an area rather than a length, the same as the surface area of the anchor...(edit: now I am getting closer... see the next anchor post, comming soon)
I was also curious to see how the colossal anchors carried by some bigger cruising boats like Morgans Cloud and the Dashews stack up against the boat weights and windage. Now boats don't scale properly, no smart designer is going to directly scale up directly. What normally happens is boats get relatively narrower, lower and lighter as they get bigger, so my scaling is rather crude, but it is interesting to see what happens if I scale Sunburst up to 60 foot (18m) by a factor of 1.50. the displacement goes up to a whooping 33 tonnes, 3.37 times more to about 34 tonnes. The windage only goes up by a factor of 2.25. This would require a 70kg anchor to keep the ratios about right. (edit: I think I have this sorted out now, anchors scale in proportion to their weight. so not quite such a big anchor would be needed)
The biggest winner with a big anchor is the tip loadings which scale with the surface area, double the weight gives you 1.59 times the tip load, provided your dip is as sharp as the smaller anchor. This will help your setting in some bottom types since the extra weight of the anchor helps drive this sharp tip into seabed.
Now it also occurred to me in a light bulb moment during a restless nights sleep pondering exciting things like anchors that we compare yachts ratios with numbers such as the Sail Area/displacement ratio, and Displacement/Length ratio. So why not compare anchors to boat size the same way, this would stop half the internet arguments about if your anchor is to big or to small, we could exchange our numbers and we would know exactly where we stand on the continuum of permanent mooring to toy anchor.
So here are a few ratios to play with, they might make sense number wise or just be weird, maths isn't my strong point, I would be interested to hear your Ratios.(edit: I now have a better ratio Length squared/Anchor Wt, should be about 35 or less, 7 or less for metric)
Displacement to Anchor weight ratio = Disp (kg)/Anchor weight (kg)
Displacement to Anchor Area = Displacement (tonnes)/(Anchor fluke area (cm^2)/1000)^(3/2)
These are the easy ones, windage is another critical factor, probably much more important than vessel displacement, depending on the situation. I got a crude idea of my windage in m^2, took side windage and head on windage and averaged them to reflect the normal anchor ripping out angle of 45 degrees. made a bunch of crude assumptions about rigging drag and then even I got bored... So I have a crude guess really. keen for any input on better ways. I need to refer to a few yacht design books to see if I am ballpark but hey a guess done with maths is much better than a guess done by.. well just guessing, isn't it?
So the ratios for windage are
Windage to anchor area ratio = windage (m^2) / (Anchor fluke area (cm^2)/1000)
Windage to anchor circumference = windage (m^2)/(circumference (m))^2
Anyway, even I am getting bored now, My guess is the first few people with a real maths and engineering background will die laughing and probably make spot a heap of mistakes in my logic or my math, but if by some chance the laughter isn't fatal, please make comment so it can be improved or deleted.
Cheers
Ben
PS can't work out how to add the spreadsheet to this blog. Any ideas?
Sunday, February 20, 2011
Snow Petrel... The boring details
Cheers
Ben
Wednesday, February 9, 2011
Snow petrel battery power
| Two solar panels getting iced up.. Not much charge going in.. |
So if I spend the money on another wind generator it will probably be something like the Rutland 504 which puts out a pitiful amount of power but is small, quiet, safe and works well in strong winds. Most of the bigger ones have to be shut down for safety in gale force conditions, right when the solar panels are often under cloud, and when you don't need any power issues. Saying that, in some places like the trade winds or with a good reliable sea breeze wind generators may make more sense?
Monday, February 7, 2011
Sextants and GPS Take II
Edit 15/2/11 After discussion with Chris at Brilliant star see here for more details and also the comments on this post. It seems we have our answer, there is a remote possibility a large enough solar flare could compromise the GPS, Galileo, glonass and irridium satellites and radio for long enough to make carrying a sextant across an ocean a good idea?
From the geology.com website they suggested that normal flares would only reduce the accuracy by 50 meters or so, not a big deal if you are navigating defensively. And they mentioned an 11 year solar flare peak 2013…
However the chances of an large enough solar event to wipeout these systems for any significant period seems remote, And it would also cause chaos ashore, so it falls into my doomsday apocalyptic situation. By coincidence today has the largest event this solar cycle according to (see I am turning into a journalist..) these guys
BUT I will still carry a sextant... And I will also keep an eye on the space weather and also be aware that a strong aurora and poor radio propagation may also indicate reductions in gps accuracy.
A Big thanks to Chris onboard Brilliant Star for the Info
for further info see
The 500 year flare.. NOAA
NOAA flare scales
Sunday, February 6, 2011
Iphones and Idiots
So today due to being on the boat with a flat computer battery I thought I would try to email in a post about my lovely new sextant. But while halfway through composing my masterpiece of modern literature, my far to fat forefinger acidentally tapped the far to small screen in the spot called send.. so off went my half finished post into the interweb with that stupid iphone signature that I nomally delete..
Anyway the thing doesn't support flash or something so It won't let me go back in and edit the post on my site, hence this longwinded explanation, but anyway you can still answer my question in the last post, what to you think, are sextants like tits on a bull? (ie useless)
While on the subject of phones, for us power starved cruisers this little phone is a marvel, internet at your fingertips, draws next to nothing powerwise. Stores songs and brilliant sailing podcasts from Furledsails.com (you can look them up) And it also stores charts, for $15 (Navionics) I have the whole of Australia stored on It. (it even updates them for me!) Its now a pocketsized chartplotter (It has a built in GPS). Absolutley amazing.... now if only those screens were bigger.
Cheers from Snow Petrel
PS I'm sure the other brand smartphones are just as good, and infact the 3G part of this phone has died so its reception is pretty bad out of town. And in my defense mine is a crappy old 8 meg 3G not the way cooler 3gs or iphone 4, but if anyone from apple is reading this I do accept sponsership...
Sextant and Tits on Bulls
I brushed the cobwebs off the hatch of Snowpetrel and shook the cockroaches out of the sails, then sailed across to Bruny Island for BBQ. The next day I popped in to see a mate who showed me a sextant he had aquired in a garage sale. I checked it and adjusted out the slight errors, and just held it, unlike my old plastic davis mk 15 this had a "Real" sextant feel, so much like the sextants I learnt to use on the ships. Anyway I bought it.. 500 bucks for a virtually new Freiberger with a lovely wooden case. Why are they so expensive asked karen? 500 bucks I could have bought about 4 GPS units, which would do the same job quicker, more accurately...etc.
So are sextants about as much use as tits on a bull? should they be resigned to antique stores with the walker log?
Sent from my iPhone
Wednesday, February 2, 2011
Cyclone Yasi.. and old car tires
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| Katabatics Starting to ease off. Photo Matt Tucker |
By the way I have never actually used tires as a drogue, it has been done before by others. I have only used conventional drogues and warps. Maybe I need to test the theory....

